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On Monday, December 1, a SWAT team with semi-automatic rifles entered the private home of the Stowers family in LaGrange, Ohio, herded the family onto the couches in the living room, and kept guns trained on parents, children, infants and toddlers, from approximately 11 AM to 8 PM. The team was aggressive and belligerent. The children were quite traumatized. At some point, the “bad cop” SWAT team was relieved by another team, a “good cop” team that tried to befriend the family. The Stowers family has run a very large, well-known food cooperative called Manna Storehouse on the western side of the greater Cleveland area for many years.


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Has anyone else heard about this?
MommylovesRJ
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PITTSFIELD TOWNSHIP — An Ohio Department of Agriculture agent seized food, electronic devices and documents from a Pittsfield Township organic and natural food cooperative believed to be unlicensed, according to a search warrant filed yesterday in Lorain County Common Pleas Court.

Jacqueline and John Stowers, owners of the Manna Storehouse, 43565 SR 303, were inspected in November 2007 by the Lorain County General Health District, according to court records.

On Monday, ODA enforcement agent William Lesho confiscated hundreds of pounds of processed beef and large amounts of lamb, turkey and other perishable products in addition to office files, a computer, two cell phones and other electronic devices, according to the search warrant inventory. The items were taken to establish the Stowers' ownership in any property, records of hidden wealth or illegal income and anything that would establish illegal activity, according to the search warrant affidavit.

Full Article from The Morning Journal
tac
That is insanity. I'd be retaining a alwyer and suing the socks off of everyone involved. This is America not Soviet Russia, or at least it use to be America.
ALS
Guess it wasn't tainted with enough USDA approved melamine.
Rink
Well if this is true, the govt violated these peoples Constitutional rights, didnt show any Warrant to search the house and unjustifiably searched and seized things they had no apparent warrant for.

And another thing, this:

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Presumably Manna Storehouse might eventually be charged with running a retail establishment without a license. Why then the Gestapo-type interrogation for a 3rd degree misdemeanor charge? This incident has raised the ominous specter of a restrictive new era in State regulation and enforcement over the nation’s private food supply.


What this boils down to is, the govt telling people, you cant have food stocks, sell food stocks and engage in sharing food stocks with anyone without the express permission of the govt and also have to pay the govt to 'allow' you to be able to do business that doesnt need govt approval.

In effect the govt is acting worse than the Mafia, terrifying this family and telling them that family needs to give payola to the govt in order to conduct business that most normal people have done for ages, trade foods, and barter and sell foods.

This is govt overreach into an area they have no reason to be into, unless this family opens up a legitimate business in a storefront, they have every right to share their food with any they see fit.

Also taking their private foodstocks puts an undue hardship burden on this family and abuses the children who rely on their parents to feed them.

in effect the govt's heavy hand has hammered down on this family and is in the process of forcibly starving that family in order to get their extortion payola in order for that family to be able to feed itself let alone sell or barter or share food to others they see fit to.

My advice to this family is to get a lawyer and sue the hell out of that police and their raid, take the lawsuit up on Constitutional and civil Rights charges as that family was never served a warrant, was not given any reading of rights and had their posessions taken from them without justifiable reason.

Rink
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The items were taken to establish the Stowers' ownership in any property, records of hidden wealth or illegal income and anything that would establish illegal activity, according to the search warrant affidavit.


Hidden wealth and illegal Income? Yup this is the govt telling this family they want payola in order for that family to be able to feed itself and live.

I'm astonished they didnt shoot the parents dead and take the kids and take over their property in this 'raid'
tac
Go raid Obammy's house, I'm sure he has all kinds of illegal stuff.
MommylovesRJ
The father is in Iraq...a Navy Seabee. And AFAIK, food co-ops are NOT required to be licensed.

As for the warrant, I dunno how legal it was, but the story did say that a warrant was shown.
Rink
QUOTE (MommylovesRJ @ Dec 6 2008, 05:08 PM) *
The father is in Iraq...a Navy Seabee. And AFAIK, food co-ops are NOT required to be licensed.

As for the warrant, I dunno how legal it was, but the story did say that a warrant was shown.


They had better have a damn good reason for this, other than pushing for payola they dont have a right to since its a co-op.

MommylovesRJ
On a side note, this family is also a homeschooling, Christian family.
tac
QUOTE (Rink @ Dec 6 2008, 06:09 PM) *
They had better have a damn good reason for this, other than pushing for payola they dont have a right to since its a co-op.


They don't need a reason.
Rink
You know what the govt is trying to do with this, the govt is behind the NAIS food tracking program that tags and tracks EVERY single farm animal from cows, chickens, geese and more to backyard chickens and more even your dogs.

NAIS is The most invasive form of govt tracking of our food supply ever devised and this food raiding and harrassment of co-op farms and Amish and private farms and Christian homeschoolers growing their own foods is proof the govt wants ALL control of ALL America's food supplies to the point they dont want ANYONE outside their uber controls.

This should tell you everything, besides wanting payola:

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The state of Ohio boasts the second largest Amish population in the country. Many of the Amish live on acreages where they raise their own food, not unlike Manna Storehouse, and sell off the extras to neighbors and church members. There is a sense of foreboding that this state crackdown on a longstanding, reputable food cooperative operation could adversely impact the peaceful agrarian way of life not only for the Amish, but homeschoolers and those families living off the land on rural acreages. It raises the disturbing possibility that it could become a crime to raise your own food, buy eggs from the farmer down the road, or butcher your own chickens for family and friends – bustling activities that routinely take place in backwater America.



tac
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It raises the disturbing possibility that it could become a crime to raise your own food, buy eggs from the farmer down the road, or butcher your own chickens for family and friends – bustling activities that routinely take place in backwater America.


Sounds like Soviet Russia.
Rink
Sounds WORSE than Soviet Russia.

JayneScarlet
QUOTE (Rink @ Dec 6 2008, 09:26 PM) *
Sounds WORSE than Soviet Russia.

Indeed. angry.gif
Justaguy
It's going to be intresting to see how much of this the American People are willing to tolerate.
charity
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On a side note, this family is also a homeschooling, Christian family.

THAT is the real reason for the raid I'll bet.

BTW-food co-ops are very popular in many homeschool groups. I was in one myself. They need to leave us the he&& alone.
ALS
Welcome to the land of government licensed pasteurized milk and processed honey.

May you live long and be taxed to death.
charity
Something tells me it has only just begun. After January 20th we are going to see things we never thought we would ever see in this country in our lifetime.
MommylovesRJ
QUOTE (charity @ Dec 6 2008, 09:35 PM) *
Something tells me it has only just begun. After January 20th we are going to see things we never thought we would ever see in this country in our lifetime.


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JayneScarlet
How does a co-op work?

Is this mostly about taxes? Was it a government SWAT team? or was this some sort of fringe bunch with arms?
MommylovesRJ
QUOTE (JayneScarlet @ Dec 6 2008, 09:52 PM) *
How does a co-op work?


Around here, and as a general I believe, food co-ops are "bought" into. You invest in a share, and then the amassed shares are used to purchase on a larger scale, which means at a lower price. It makes it possible to buy much larger amounts of food, at a much lower cost. Thus, you get more for your buck. Another way it is done around here, are working co-ops. You invest in a share to combine with other shares for purchases of seed, animals like chicken, etc. Then, you also agree to invest a certain amount of time in cultivating, the husbandry of the animals, etc. In return you receive a fair share of any goods sold, as well as a fair share of the goods, for personal consumption.


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Is this mostly about taxes?

Not certain. It has been suggested due to no licensing, but as they were not selling retail, there should have been no need for licensing. That said, even if it was required for them to have a license, their not having one is only a third degree misdemeanor in Ohio. The ODA actions seem to be quite over the top for a third degree misdemeanor.


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Was it a government SWAT team?

Yes. The Ohio Dept. of Agriculture.


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or was this some sort of fringe bunch with arms?

See previous answer. tongue.gif
ALS
http://www.localharvest.org/food-coops/
charity
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How does a co-op work?

It's like the barter system
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barter

In many homeschools we have "co-ops" where each family will exchange their surplus or services for something else. In my group, one lady had access to a deli where she got day old wonderful loaves of exotic breads. Every Monday and Friday she would bring the bread in big bags and we all helped ourselves to what we needed. Another lady taught Spanish twice a week. Another family had chickens and they brought eggs. Each family takes what they need from the kiddie and in return they give. There is never any money involved. This only works if each family is faithful to pull their weight. This is just one example. Some food co-ops are pretty large with over 200 families involved. There is no overseer or any one person in charge. All the families must be responsible on their own for it to work.
MommylovesRJ
Interview w/ the Stowers family, after the raid.





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Columbus - The Buckeye Institute's 1851 Center for Constitutional Law today took legal action against the Ohio Department of Agriculture (ODA) and the Lorain County Health Department for violating the constitutional rights of John and Jacqueline Stowers of LaGrange, Ohio. The Stowers operate an organic food cooperative called Manna Storehouse. ODA and Lorain County Health Department agents forcefully raided their home and unlawfully seized the family's personal food supply, cell phones and personal computers. The legal center seeks to halt future similar raids. The complaint was filed in Lorain County Court of Common Pleas.
"The use of these police state tactics on a peaceful family is simply unacceptable," Buckeye Institute President David Hansen said. "Officers rushed into the Stowers' home with guns drawn and held the family - including ten young children - captive for six hours. This outrageous case of bureaucratic overreach must be addressed."


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Rink
From what I heard the police took things that were NOT on their search warrant's list, i.e. they violated the LAW!

These people need to get themselves a lawyer and sue the blazing crapo's out of that police dept and more.
MommylovesRJ
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These people need to get themselves a lawyer and sue the blazing crapo's out of that police dept and more.



QUOTE (MommylovesRJ @ Dec 19 2008, 08:38 PM) *
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Columbus - The Buckeye Institute's 1851 Center for Constitutional Law today took legal action against the Ohio Department of Agriculture (ODA) and the Lorain County Health Department for violating the constitutional rights of John and Jacqueline Stowers of LaGrange, Ohio.


They have, and are.
Rink
Keep us informed I wanna see that bunch hurtin financially for this jackbooted UnConstitutional raid.
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